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not long after, air raid sirens went off in jerusalem, and egypt sends its prime minister to the gaza strip in a show of solidarity with the -- and did general petraeus pull a 180 degree turn in testimony today? in september he said it was videos and spontaneous demonstrations. today he said the cia knew all along it was a terrorist attack in libya. this story gets worse and worse, more and more complicated and we are going to parse through it. first up, with the fiscal cliff only 45 short days away, are we facing a stalemate or is there a new kissy huggy era coming to washington, d.c.? we've got two kissy huggy cnbc contributors. jared bernstein, former vice president, biden chief economist, and kissy huggy jim pethokoukis of the american enterprise institute. jimmy p., i love this new washington picture. and i don't want to be pessimistic. i want to be optimistic. maybe they can make a deal. but here's what i worry about, jimmy. here's what i fear. the republicans are conceding that they'll give a revenue -- a tax revenue portion by limiting deductions. but i don't see any spending
not long after, air raid sirens went off in jerusalem, and egypt sends its prime minister to the gaza strip in a show of solidarity with the -- and did general petraeus pull a 180 degree turn in testimony today? in september he said it was videos and spontaneous demonstrations. today he said the cia knew all along it was a terrorist attack in libya. this story gets worse and worse, more and more complicated and we are going to parse through it. first up, with the fiscal cliff only 45 short days...
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the historic ties between egypt and gaza in particular and egypt ruled gaza for something like 19 years or so. so, of course, there is a sense of outrage in egypt and anyway, we should remember it was never good between egypt and israel even under mub abak, but what the israelis now miss is sulaiman and the vice president of mubarak. he was tied to israeli intelligence. what kind of proximity and that kind of affinity is gone and what you have in hamas now is the sense that there is an islamist wage in the region and they see the islamist government in tunisia and they look around and see turkey hovering over the region with an islamist government and they feel the wind is blowing their way. >> do you think it is blowing their way? >> not at all because in the end the hamas people would be fooling themselves and the palestinians would pay the price for this kind of folly because the arab world is not going to march to the tune of hamas. the saudi monarchy, if you listen to what's happening and what's coming out of saudi arabia, the only thing the saudi monarch said was we need the rule
the historic ties between egypt and gaza in particular and egypt ruled gaza for something like 19 years or so. so, of course, there is a sense of outrage in egypt and anyway, we should remember it was never good between egypt and israel even under mub abak, but what the israelis now miss is sulaiman and the vice president of mubarak. he was tied to israeli intelligence. what kind of proximity and that kind of affinity is gone and what you have in hamas now is the sense that there is an islamist...
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they want to test egypt and they're winning. egypt is supporting them. qatar is supporting them, turkey is supporting them. this is what's so dangerous about this. this makes the likelihood of peace in the middle east much harder and it empowers gaza and weakens the palestinian authority and i agree with nick that it would be best that the palestinians and israelis sat down and treed to work it out among themselves, but this all relates to the big picture. and you've been to syria and it's an absolute basket case. >> and it is heartbreaking. you see these middle class -- i talked to one woman who a week ago was living this middle class existence with her husband and a nice home in aleppo and a bomb destroys her house and now her husband goes missing and she's living with her family in a white tent in the middle of nowhere. this is happening day in and day out and i think the turmoil in gaza is a gift of president assad. it's a kind of distraction that he's delighted to have. >> the world in the arab community is paying more attention to 30 people being k
they want to test egypt and they're winning. egypt is supporting them. qatar is supporting them, turkey is supporting them. this is what's so dangerous about this. this makes the likelihood of peace in the middle east much harder and it empowers gaza and weakens the palestinian authority and i agree with nick that it would be best that the palestinians and israelis sat down and treed to work it out among themselves, but this all relates to the big picture. and you've been to syria and it's an...
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this will be pressure from egypt. there will be pressure from turkey and qatar, the three countries that are the most sympathetic to hamas, because don, i think the fear is warranted. it is not the last time we'll see the conflict between israel and the palestinians. hamas is leading the palestinian people to ruin, hamas must be seen to be a rogue regime. because it is under the palestinian national authority. >> i want to go back to something you said about the president's indifference. do you think it would behoove the president to get involved and trying to solve this crisis? is it even possible to find a solution in the next four years? that question is really asked of every president. >> i think you're absolutely right, from truman, if you want the history, to george bush, people talked about solving the crisis. president obama actually kind of turned away from the region, from the conflict. but now there is noise to do what he can do in the second administration, not the first. it always frustrates american pres
this will be pressure from egypt. there will be pressure from turkey and qatar, the three countries that are the most sympathetic to hamas, because don, i think the fear is warranted. it is not the last time we'll see the conflict between israel and the palestinians. hamas is leading the palestinian people to ruin, hamas must be seen to be a rogue regime. because it is under the palestinian national authority. >> i want to go back to something you said about the president's indifference....
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you had the prime minister of egypt today. egypt will be very careful not to break with israel, not to break camp david, of course, but nonetheless, it's opening up that border and it's going to be easier for ham parks s mrkhama rocket territory. i think that has them much more worried and much more willing and able to go into places like gaza to try to deal with the threat and deal with the ruse of a threat. >> nick, you mentioned the egyptian president. i want to you listen to a fiery speech he made today about the people of gaza and what egypt thinks. listen to this. >> reporter: we support the people of gaza. we are with them in their trenches. what hurts them hurts us. and the blood that flows from their children is our blood, too. >> riva, these are warlike words. is there any real danger here of this thing spilling beyond this? for all these warlike words between neighbors out there, does anyone else want to get into this fight if israel goes into gaza or will it be between gaza and israel? >> ij for right now we're see
you had the prime minister of egypt today. egypt will be very careful not to break with israel, not to break camp david, of course, but nonetheless, it's opening up that border and it's going to be easier for ham parks s mrkhama rocket territory. i think that has them much more worried and much more willing and able to go into places like gaza to try to deal with the threat and deal with the ruse of a threat. >> nick, you mentioned the egyptian president. i want to you listen to a fiery...
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egypt's relations with hamas strengthened. but the new administration in that country. protesters in turkey set an israeli flag and photo of benjamin netanyahu ablaze during a demonstration last night. let's go now to the israeli side of the border as we've been reporting israeli tanks and troops have been taking up position there's. cnn's reporter joins us live from the border. fred, thanks for joining us. what you are seeing in the terms of military activity where you are? >> reporter: hi, gary. there is a lot of military activity on this side of the border as well. a lot of it has to do with the big military buildup that's going on here. look at the roads around the area of gaza, a lot of them have been blocked off. they're not accessible anymore to normal people that want go to go through there they're a military operation zone. you're seeing a lot of military hardware on the road, usually on the back of trucks. we see a lot of tanks being delivered here, a lot of armored personnel carriers. what's going on is all this hardware is brought to collection area as well
egypt's relations with hamas strengthened. but the new administration in that country. protesters in turkey set an israeli flag and photo of benjamin netanyahu ablaze during a demonstration last night. let's go now to the israeli side of the border as we've been reporting israeli tanks and troops have been taking up position there's. cnn's reporter joins us live from the border. fred, thanks for joining us. what you are seeing in the terms of military activity where you are? >> reporter:...
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it's also threatening security and peace in egypt and the egyptian territory. we have to remember just about two months ago in the high holiday of ramadan, the muslim holiday, terrorists murdered cold blooded 16 egyptian soldiers so the terror from hamas in gaza easily spills over into sinai. >> the israeli deputy foreign minister danny ayalon, take a look at your screen. these are live pictures, by the way, that you're looking at. an explosion in gaza city just after 4:00 in the afternoon there. we've been speaking to our sara sidner in gaza. she was telling us earlier that hamas police headquarters had been hit and showing us the damage there. she said the explosions continue. the streets are pretty well deserted except for a few cars here and there. certainly drones in the sky as well. the death toll, she told us, was up to about 39 in gaza, so once again here you can see smoke filling the air in gaza city just after 4:00 in the afternoon. some live pictures we'll keep an eye on for you. next up, the other side of the story from a member of the palestinian l
it's also threatening security and peace in egypt and the egyptian territory. we have to remember just about two months ago in the high holiday of ramadan, the muslim holiday, terrorists murdered cold blooded 16 egyptian soldiers so the terror from hamas in gaza easily spills over into sinai. >> the israeli deputy foreign minister danny ayalon, take a look at your screen. these are live pictures, by the way, that you're looking at. an explosion in gaza city just after 4:00 in the...
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egypt's relations with hamas have strengthened under the new administration. protesters in turkey set a photo of netanyahu on fire. fred joins us live from the border there. good morning. what are you seeing in terms of military activity at this point? >> reporter: there's a lot of military activity going on. basically what we're seeing is a huge military buildup on the israeli side of the border. we're seeing a lot of soldiers coming through the area. buses full of soldiers that are moving towards the border with gaza. we've also seen israeli soldiers take up positions near there. there was one forward reconnaissance patrol that was hiding behind a treeline. they said to keep out of site, because they fear they could themselves become the targets for rockets as well. one of the big questions that is being asked here is whether or not this ground offensive is actually going to happen, and there israeli officials are telling us that so far no decision has been made yet. however, it is an option that they say is still very much on the table, and what they point
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. >>> there have been big protests in egypt. cairo is vowing it won't leave gaza unprotected. in a fiery speech, egyptian president morsi condemned what he calls israel's blatant aggression. >> we support the people of gaza. we are with them in their trenches. what hurts them hurts us and the blood that flows from their children is our blood, too. >> the israeli government says palestinian militants have fired more than 700 rockets at israel over the past year alone and it wants that to stop. and southern israel near the gaza border is right in the rocket's path. near the gaza border, fred, good morning. you have been on the front line near gaza. what are you seeing there? >> hi, randi. we're seeing israeli troops massing there on the front line there. we are massing several sights where we're seeing tanks and bulldozers that are getting ready to invade gaza if they, in fact, are ordered to do so. they said that they're just g getting ready for it right now and perfect to conduct a round of offensive if they feel they are not achieving the goals they want to achieve with the c
. >>> there have been big protests in egypt. cairo is vowing it won't leave gaza unprotected. in a fiery speech, egyptian president morsi condemned what he calls israel's blatant aggression. >> we support the people of gaza. we are with them in their trenches. what hurts them hurts us and the blood that flows from their children is our blood, too. >> the israeli government says palestinian militants have fired more than 700 rockets at israel over the past year alone and it...
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there will be pressure from egypt, from turka, pressure from qatar, the three countries that are most sympathetic to hamas. pressure to produce some kind of settlement. >> discussing the u.s. response to the israeli-palestinian crisis. if izrail launches a ground attack in gaza, experts say the battle could be as bloody as the 2008 invasion that killed 1400 palestinians or worse. since then, hamas has gotten better weapons and better trained its foot soldiers as well. brian todd explains what a ground war in gaza might look like. >> reporter: a precision strike from the air killing the chief of hamas' military wing, but it appears israel is getting ready to go beyond pinpoint hits like this to contain the hamas threat. an israeli official says the army has already moved nearly a division's worth of troops, as many as 2,000, to the border of gaza. israel has sealed off the main roads around gaza. will israel invade on the ground? >> i think the chances are going up. >> reporter: jeffrey white, a former analyst with the defense intelligence agency said an israeli ground invasion of gaza
there will be pressure from egypt, from turka, pressure from qatar, the three countries that are most sympathetic to hamas. pressure to produce some kind of settlement. >> discussing the u.s. response to the israeli-palestinian crisis. if izrail launches a ground attack in gaza, experts say the battle could be as bloody as the 2008 invasion that killed 1400 palestinians or worse. since then, hamas has gotten better weapons and better trained its foot soldiers as well. brian todd explains...
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one of the most important here is egypt, egypt dealing with upheaval, as you know, battling militant militants up near gaza, you also have jordan here, and jordan in recent days has had clashes in which protesters upset about the economy have actually been taking on the king, which is very unusual. finally, you have lebanon, one major official killed in a bombing, and up to the north, as you know we have been covering the syrian civil war. so obviously, a violent region and a lot of peoe
one of the most important here is egypt, egypt dealing with upheaval, as you know, battling militant militants up near gaza, you also have jordan here, and jordan in recent days has had clashes in which protesters upset about the economy have actually been taking on the king, which is very unusual. finally, you have lebanon, one major official killed in a bombing, and up to the north, as you know we have been covering the syrian civil war. so obviously, a violent region and a lot of peoe
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and if they switch from analog technology, the generation of old technology, to egypt -- to digital technology, they could share that with private users and everybody would be better off. that is what economists want to see. but as roger said, every time we get close, politics seems to enter the fray again. so i am hopeful, but certainly cannot guarantee the problem will be solved. >> i think we do have to be patient, though, because the remember the idea of the spectrum auction came around in the 1950's. it took us only 40 years to get there. >> roger noll is currently at stanford university, the record of stiffer institute for economic policy research. jerry hausman is an economics professor at the massachusetts institute of technology. we're talking about the 30th anniversary of the decision to break up at&t. gentlemen, and we will start with you professor hausman, what is the relationship between the 1982 decision by harold greene and is there a relationship between that and 1996 telecommunications act? >> yes, by 1996 it was well recognized that things had gotten out of hand. this technol
and if they switch from analog technology, the generation of old technology, to egypt -- to digital technology, they could share that with private users and everybody would be better off. that is what economists want to see. but as roger said, every time we get close, politics seems to enter the fray again. so i am hopeful, but certainly cannot guarantee the problem will be solved. >> i think we do have to be patient, though, because the remember the idea of the spectrum auction came...
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she came across this egypt influenced network. if you google it, it is this blob of blue, red, purple circles. to the blue are people tweeted in english. the right people in arabic. the purple in both languages. having become one of the state department's more added twitterers. i had a fair number of followers. if you look at the map, i was off on the fringe. i was on the map but not in the middle of the conversation. that is the challenge. the technology does provide the opportunity to get in the middle of a conversation. they purposefully go en insert themselves into chat rooms to generate a debate and to try to change hearts and minds. there is an opportunity here. inside the state department there is as great ambivalence about the technology. there is this tension of message and time. i think their shores in what he should have done. was his message perfect? not necessarily. it was on ultimately embraced by the state department. he had the disadvantage of trying to do the right thing. that is the great dilemma. you do have a r
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he warned that quote, egypt today is different from egypt yesterday and the asias today are different from the asias yesterday. joining me now pj crowley. now a professor at george washington university. thank you for joining us. >> a pleasure, eliot. >> eliot: it seems to me with all this screaming and shouting about susan rice's testimony. the only thing that struck me for legitimate upset might be that general petraeus has said he believed it was a terrorist and the u.n. ambassador said originally it was not that. is that a legitimate area of some investigation by congress? >> in fairness to susan rice. she did not say it was an act of terrorist. she didn't rule it out either. she made clear her understanding of what happened would evolve over time. the significance of general petraeus on the hill is to begin a more fullsome process to answer questions that still don't have complete answers. the second dimension will be the completion of the accountability review board the arb that the state department is working on and will be released next month by secretary of state hillary clin
he warned that quote, egypt today is different from egypt yesterday and the asias today are different from the asias yesterday. joining me now pj crowley. now a professor at george washington university. thank you for joining us. >> a pleasure, eliot. >> eliot: it seems to me with all this screaming and shouting about susan rice's testimony. the only thing that struck me for legitimate upset might be that general petraeus has said he believed it was a terrorist and the u.n....
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of the prime minister from egypt visited gaza meeting with hamas's deputy prime minister and touring a hospital. the prime minister called for an end to the attacks. 16,000 israeli reserve is soldiers are mobilizing signaling a possible ground invasion. >> we will continue to exercise prudence while defending our citizen is against terrorism. >> protests against both sides are being held around the world including midtown manhattan. >> has i watch that, look, both sides are important and we can discuss both sides. because of the way the media is structured they have reporters in tel aviv and israel and not as many in gaza and have easy access to israely leaders and don't have easy access and i'm being kind by saying that, to the leaders of palestinians. you see an ambassador or netanyahu from israel. i don't know if -- whether you believe them is a different question on both sides. all right now let's take a look at curious timing here. on november 6 we had u.s. elections later more than a week later the hamas military chief is killed. rockets target teleaveef the first time tel aviv
of the prime minister from egypt visited gaza meeting with hamas's deputy prime minister and touring a hospital. the prime minister called for an end to the attacks. 16,000 israeli reserve is soldiers are mobilizing signaling a possible ground invasion. >> we will continue to exercise prudence while defending our citizen is against terrorism. >> protests against both sides are being held around the world including midtown manhattan. >> has i watch that, look, both sides are...
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you were right to point out egypt. what will egypt do? for 40 years, egypt and israel have not gone to war with each other because they have a peace agreement. you have new leadership in egypt. leadership which already said, maybe we'll rethink that pea treaty we have. if there is israeli-gaza war, would egypt join it? would they help? would they abrogate that peace trty? most importantly will they open up the border between the gaza strip and egypt and then that allows arms to go from libya, eastern libya, through egypt, into the gaza stri melissa: would you. all this gets more complicated we think about energy, a third of the world's oil, 36% comes from this region, a little more than a third. ilso worry about the sue west canal which is right there. >> you should. nobody is paying attention. everybody looking at persian gulf. look at the suez canal, 120 miles long. i it is so narrow it is a single lane with a few passing lanes in it. the sinai peninsula which is the piece of land between israel and egypt, pret vacant. desert, nobody is
you were right to point out egypt. what will egypt do? for 40 years, egypt and israel have not gone to war with each other because they have a peace agreement. you have new leadership in egypt. leadership which already said, maybe we'll rethink that pea treaty we have. if there is israeli-gaza war, would egypt join it? would they help? would they abrogate that peace trty? most importantly will they open up the border between the gaza strip and egypt and then that allows arms to go from libya,...
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even egypt, their population is rapidly growing. so i don't know any with the exception of iran, that would encourage hamas to have the retaliation of you groups. they do have an interest. because it will demonstrate and they look at you in conflict, the shia radicalism. it makes it so complex. even on the sunni side, many of the groups. neil: we stand by israel, what is our policy? >> both candates have made very clear that they stand behind israel. neil: some feel that he has been divorcing himself from israel. >> we continue to be. >> they supply this during the war. i don't believe there would be a general middle east war with israel and its neighbors right now. iran has an interest in doing ttis because they know that the nuclear issue is moving towards a climax. and they are trying to figure out how to deal with a nuclear problem that could be delayed. so they make themselves the spokesman of the middle east. countries like egypt, those in the middle east, those at thi momen neil: what they felt threatened enough and they knew
even egypt, their population is rapidly growing. so i don't know any with the exception of iran, that would encourage hamas to have the retaliation of you groups. they do have an interest. because it will demonstrate and they look at you in conflict, the shia radicalism. it makes it so complex. even on the sunni side, many of the groups. neil: we stand by israel, what is our policy? >> both candates have made very clear that they stand behind israel. neil: some feel that he has been...
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th violence straining israeli relations with egypt. the senate's prime minister, not its promise to the president, prime minister to gaza to show solidarity with the paestinians and to, some say, a broker truce. moments ago men yahoo called president obama to discuss options for the escalating the crisis. that is the latest there. let's return to the "a-team". i had just pose the question, will this president move ahead with the nomination of ambassador rice to be secretary of state? >> senator mccain, others would know how to fight it fighting and filibuster. i think as president, we ought to stop fighting americans and working with other americans and fight the world pbgc was going on in the mideast. the enormous problems we have. the president he's fighting other americans. i think that is a huge mistake in why the country is so polarized. lou: go ahead. >> of the liberal mainstream an also liberal members of congress, they are already laying down the framework for the president to nominate her command they're going to bring female
th violence straining israeli relations with egypt. the senate's prime minister, not its promise to the president, prime minister to gaza to show solidarity with the paestinians and to, some say, a broker truce. moments ago men yahoo called president obama to discuss options for the escalating the crisis. that is the latest there. let's return to the "a-team". i had just pose the question, will this president move ahead with the nomination of ambassador rice to be secretary of state?...